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Welcome to Eamon's Corner.
Ex Ps 47 Eamon Maloney who served at Cannon Row just prior to it becoming 'CX' is your 'Roving Reporter' for Alpha Delta Plus. Eamon has a refreshing and most entertaining and informative view of Cannon Row past and present.
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CaNNon or CaNon?

HOW MANY "Ns" AT THE ROW

Good old AD seems to hold many memories for many of us who are now
spread across the world having a well earned rest after what seemed to be a
lifetime in "the Job"......
Time marches on,and the local area has changed markedly of late,what with a
new tube line and new facilities for "POW" built at the corner of Bridge
Street/Embankment.......ST.Stephens Parade as we knew it has long gone.....

So,heres one to get to grips with-HOW MANY Ns AT THE ROW..?
whats he on about I hear you say..??
well,dear reader,are you sitting comfortably..?then I'll begin.......
Many moons ago as a young probationer-wet behind the ears,only been here 2
minutes,boy in the job etc,I can remember being sent "up town"on aid from P
district......standing all day in Bridge Street...if I remember correctly
there used to be
a small "slip road"that ran from Bridge Street along to the nick-the old
AD-.........and I THINK it was CANON ROW....yes, 1 N only.......thought no
more about it till a few years later when I was posted "up town"and ended up
at the new "AD"-must have upset someone along the line.!......and saw that
spelling was different....2 Ns..!
All the Job bumpf referred to AD as CANNON ROW with 2 Ns,but Im sure the
roadsign from all those years back had 1......its long gone now.......
So,can anyone shed some light on this one please....??....maybe the old grey
matter begins to get a little cloudy after a few years,but it would be great
to hear what other pensioners have to say on this and no doubt any aspect of
ADs rich heritage......
Regards Eamon,
(Your roving reporter)
STOP PRESS-Coming soon-I hope-if I can get to grips with modern technology and
"digital"cameras.....?...pictures of what the area looks like
today........many Job pensioners have flown far and wide to warmer
shores....so popping "up town" for the day isnt an option.......
Eamon (Your Roving Reporter)
email Eamon at: alphadeltaplus@gmail.com

REPLY FROM TERRY BROOKS Ex PC. 154'A'

A Researched Answer to Eamon's excellent piece on Cannon Row. (Site two)


Research Source The Survey of London by John Stow first published in 1598

About John Stow :- He was born about 1525 ,the son of a London chandler. Became a tailor; freeman of the Merchant Taylor's Company in 1547.

Charged with Catholic sympathies, 1568 -70 but was acquitted.

He Died 6th April 1605.

Channon Row is mentioned twice in the survey once as here shown and then as Cannon Row see pages 403 and 420 N.B. the index only lists the entries as Cannon Row.

Page 402/3:Beyond this gallery, on the left hand, is the garden or orchard belonging to the said Whitehall.

On the right hand be divers fair tennis-courts, bowling-alleys, and a cock-pit, all built by King Henry VIII.; and then one other arched gate, with a way over it, thwarting the street from the Kings Gardens to the said park. From this gate up King Street (See Plaque on the old Cabinet Office wall facing Parliament Square (T.V.Brooks italics)to a bridge over Long ditch (so called for that the same almost insulateth the City of Westminster), near which bridge, is a way leading to Channon Row , So called for that the same belonged to the Dean and Channons of St. Stephen's Chapel, who were there lodged, as now divers noblemen and gentlemen be. ( i.e. in 1598)

Page 420: On the east side of this court is an arched gate to the river of Thames, with a fair bridge and landing-place for all men who have occasion. On the north side is the south end of St. Stephen's Alley, or Cannon Row, and also a way into the old wool staple; and on the west side is a fair gate begun by Richard the III., in the year 1484, and was by him built a great height, and many fair lodgings in it , but left unfinished, and is called the high tower of Westminster. Thus much for the monastery and palace may suffice. And now will I speak of the gate house and of Totehill street, stretching from the west part of the close.

Conclusion, either Eamon's memory has played a trick on him; or Westminster City Council wrongly named the street Canon Row for a short period. Eamon I leave you to check whether the last, is the case.

N.B. The spelling above is as transcribed from John Stow;s Survey. In those days they wrote and spelt as they spoke.

Sincerely yours Terry Brooks.



STILL NOT SURE?......
How many N's did you think it was then.....?????

The plot thickens.......you may remember my shout for some "assistance"a
while back,asking "how many N's at the Row?"...well then......our esteemed
contributor has provided some very interesting information on the subject,but
guess what..?
the good old A to Z shows it ..or did show it as.....CANON ROW....do what? he
says!
yep,CANON....!
Lets be havin' you then.....what do you think..?is the Whitehall Roving
Reporter losing the plot MP..?
Well,that's all for now folks!!
All cars from M2GW,message concluded.......
Cheers
Your roving reporter from Whitehall. 

email: alphadeltaplus@gmail.com




Dear Eamon,
I still think John Stow is correct. More so than A to Z. The Westminster City Council could have made an error.

However, I was pleased to see your ref to M2GW the MP call sign as that was what it was, when I did my area car attachment on 6C as it was then. In an old square built Wolsey 25; Black of course. This would be about September 1953. They were good old cars very stable and quite fast. However, when I was posted as operator on 6C in 1956 it was in a new Wolsey 680 smart as paint; with Jock McGregor of C division as the driver. He shot Oxford Street on the red from a side street, with the bell going. He did ease off as we crossed the first building line. Nevertheless, I and the observer nearly c*****d ourselves. All this for a domestic in some flats. In those days A Division and C Division shared the Area Car 6 monthly. Crews were often made up of either divisions drivers. Always your own Division for Operator and Observer. It was such an irregular posting that when my best man 197A Ray Brassel went to S division he found that blokes used to moan about being posted to the car, especially night duty. So he volunteered for it and always got it on nights. He never got it on AD's manor. He is in our site in the 'contributons' section but he's mixed up the S & A Div shoulder numbers. Then,he is older than me. All that Vicaring in Toronto & Calgary has clouded his memory but only as far as his Divisional numbers are concerned.

Cheers for now lads Terry Brooks



Dear Eamon,
Thank you for the email published in 'Eamons Corner' I enjoyed it immensely especially being
corrected by Terry Brooks. Thank you Terry (as you read this) for
correcting me. You're correct of course! A197. It quite took me
back to those days. I have so many pleasant memories that one day I'll
be forced to tell you about them.

It was interesting that just the other day I remembered a couple of PC,s
from Cannon (I can't honestly remember whether it was one or two 'N's
then) I met who told me of their plans to move to Canada. I don't
remember their divisional numbers but see them in my minds eye.
Suffice it to say they disappeared from sight. I wonder why I've
remembered them now? It may have sowed a seed in my mind that many
years later precipitated my move to Canada? I wonder if they made it
and if they're still here and if so where?

Terry and I lived in the section house in Rochester Row and the Church
that was up the street was St. Francis and the Rector George Rheindorp
who read my banns. He eventually became a Bishop and visited Canada as
a conference speaker. It's a small world, they say. I never
considered the police in Canada but eventually became an Anglican priest
only to discover that many former British bobbies had done the same
thing. In theological terms I'd moved from Law to Grace, said my Old
Testament professor.

Another of our friends at Canon Row in those days was Gordon Brooks who
attended our wedding. Terry advises me that his number was A474.
Does anyone remember him and, more importantly, where he is now? I'd
appreciate any news.

Just a few notes for now.

By the way! I was known as Brass (as with zz) in those days!

Cheers for now, as Terry says,


Raymond Brassell Ex PC 197'A'/139336
email:brassellr@telus.net
SEE TERRY BROOK'S REPLY ON 'MORE MEMORIES' PAGE. Select from index at top of this page.



Further to the 'CaNNon' or 'CaNon' debate take a look at this recent map of the area. If you look carefully, I am sure that it is shown as 'CANON' Row and not 'CANNON' Row.I have managed to obtain a picture taken very recently and will endeavour to master the scanner and send it in the near future.
Keep 'em peeled!
Eamon, your roving reporter from Whitehall.


CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE PRODUCED BELOW?


ALL CARS WAIT!
The evidence below was obtained from a security camera positioned close to Whitehall on 18th April 2002.
It clearly shows that there is only ONE 'N' in Canon Row.
I felt sure that my mind was not playing tricks on me over the intervening years.
Hopefully this will bring the 'N' question to a close? Or will it?
Keep 'em peeled!
Eamon, your roving reporter from Whitehall.



Email from Ex PC 154 'A' Terry Brooks.

Eamon,
I surrender! Your photograph of the street name CANON ROW with the City of Westminster caption has convinced me.
My apologies for not acknowledging the correct spelling previously. This is of course due to my 4+ month absence from my computer, enforced by knee trouble. I now have a brace so I can get upstairs again.

Keep up the good work chaps. I see such a lot has gone on since I was last able to visit the site.

Cheers for now

Terry Brooks.


IN CASE YOU NEEDED IT, HERE IS FURTHER EVIDENCE:


Eamon,

As a new visitor to Alphadeltaplus I'm amazed that the Cannon Row, Canon Row issue could still be a topic for debate, an issue for me in back December 1963.

I was posted from Hendon to AD in November 1963 having previously served in 3rd Bn The Parachute Regiment. At that time there was some antagonism by certain officers towards probationers straight out of training school.

After the brief period of "learning beats" or should I be more correct and call it "how to find your own way back to the nick for refs and booking off without getting lost" I was to be let loose on the streets on my own. After parading for night duty and being posted I had to check the map in the parade room to see where I was supposed to go and how to get there. It was somewhere in the general direction of around Westminster Abbey. Once I had got my bearings I was on my way, by this time the parade room was empty and not a friendly face in sight. I walked at regulation pace (as instructed at Hendon) out of AD and turned left into Canon Row towards Bridge Street. As I neared the junction, there, lying in the middle of the road was a motionless body, on closer examination it was obvious that the person was totally drunk and incapable. My immediate reaction was who has set me up as only a few minutes before other officers must have passed by and seen the drunk, my second reaction was good, 4 hours on my card he's nicked ( I had already learnt about the time off card, a most valuable piece of information which hadn't been taught at Hendon). I half dragged and half carried my very first arrest to AD, no Judges Rules and cautions at that time. I found my way into the Charge Room with my prisoner and waited and waited until a PS finally walked out of the front office with a mug of drink in his hand, a PS devoid of any personality or people skills (as its politely called now). I was first asked why I was there and who was the person slumped on the floor. I told him that he was my prisoner and I had found him drunk lying in the middle of the roadway in Canon Row and he was unable to talk or comprehend.I was told to go through the prisoners pockets, find out his personal details and remove his tie and belt and write up my pocket book. All these things I did and by this time the prisoner was starting to come round. The PS later returned and took my pocket book out of my hand and started writing out the charge sheet.

After a few minutes of writing on the charge sheet and referring to my pocket book he looked up at me and the dialog went something like this "Do you know where you are and can't you #*****# spell?" I replied "yes sarge" he replied "Sergeant to you and no you can't #*****# spell, Canon Row has two 'n's'". I replied "sorry sergeant it has only one 'n' ". He started to get even more abusive towards me and said "look lad you are only a #*****# probationer and you don't know nothing". I replied "I might be only a probationer, I'm not your lad and I can spell". The dialog got more heated and abusive voices were raised which caused other police officers to have a sly look to see what was happening but not wanting to get into involved. Whilst this was going on my prisoner was sitting quietly on the charge room bench coming more into focus with his surroundings and the happenings. By this time I was being threatened with all manner of retribution and my final reply was in the best tradition of my regiment, "get your #*****# stripes off and step into a cell with me for 5 minutes and I'll give you a good spelling lesson"

Whilst this was all happening in the charge room, unbeknown to me someone had called for the Duty Officer and someone else had gone out to Canon Row and checked the street sign. A PC came into the charge room and said "he's right sarge the street sign has only one 'n' ". At the same time the Duty Officer appeared and asked what was going on. The sergeant replied "nothing sir, just a noisy drunk". The drunk was formally charged, he appeared at Bow Street Magistrates Court, pleaded guilty, fined 10 shillings and I got 4 hours on my card.

After that incident the sergeant conducted himself in a very correct and proper manner towards me, however he never ever spoke to me socially, avoided me as much as possible and could never bring himself to look me straight in the eye.Word got around the nick that a probationer had had the temerity to have an argument with a sergeant, a number of stories emanated from the incident but most of them were off the mark and others were left wondering why the PS didn't take action against me and what would have happened if we had stepped into an empty cell together.After reading about the spelling of Cannon Row the nick and Canon Row the street after all these years I have started to wonder myself.

Even living in Australia I can vouch for the fact from a very personal perspective that CANNON ROW, the police station is spelt with TWO 'N's and CANON ROW the street is spelt with ONE 'N'.

I can remember the incident but I can't for the life of me remember my divisional number whilst serving at 'AD', can anyone help?

Dave Barrowcliffe (Warrant number 152893)

phone +61 7 389 98462
mobile 0412 245 246
fax +61 7 390 15438
email
dave3para@optusnet.com.au

 

IT'S NOT OVER YET! THERE'S MORE!...........

I have recently read the correspondence regarding the above and in particular the E-Mail from Terry Brooks.

If it is correct that the street was named for the Dean and Channons of St. Stephens Chapel, then I believe that the correct spelling is with one 'N', this is because someone in the intervening centuries has decided that a Canon of a Church or Cathedral should be spelt with one 'N' even though it may have been spelt with two in Tudor times.
 
As Terry Brooks says, the spelling was all over the place and there are numerous examples of the same words being spelt differently in the same sentence or paragraph in English texts right up to the early 19th century.
 
It was after this time that spelling was standardised as we know today.
 
As a matter of interest I have a copy of 'Stanfords map of London, 1862' on CD-ROM, it is a very detailed six inches to the mile map and shows Cannon Row spelt with two'Ns'.
 
Of course it may just be that Westminster Council is now being sponsored by a Japanese Camera Company!
 
Regards,
 
Leonard Bentley, Ex PC 799 'A'/164477


 



Grapevine News
Now then.......how about this.......
The BTP are recruiting for RETIRED and about to be retired Job to join them
on a short term contract -if youre under 57-at 34,000 PA to start.....part
time too if you want..they need experience and expertise that the youngsters
coming in today lack.
Its for LONDON only at the mo.........
Eamon, Your roving reporter in and around Whitehall.


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